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| Fortissimo Member (1500+)Joined: 19:55, Mon 19 May 2003Posts: 1602 |
For me Franco Corelli is the best tenor. Just hear his Nessun Dorma. A superb high B at the end. Never heard a high B like his in Nessun Dorma. Pavarotti sings it quite falssetto in my opinion. Therefore he can stretch the two high notes so long. Anyway are there any Franco fans here. Please share your opinion. Has someone seen Franco live! Please share your experience!!!
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 Forum Moderator Joined: 17:22, Wed 16 Oct 2002Posts: 2697Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Yes, there are Franco Corelli fans here
I haven't seen and unfortunately I haven't HEARD him live... I was a big Franco Corelli fan, and still am but he isn't my all time favorite tenor like he was. Franco Corelli had a big voice and it's certainly exciting to listen to recordings of him singing, though sometimes I have enough of 'Corelli'. Even though the intelligent singer tried to make his voice as beautiful possible, with dynamics etc listening to some aria's generally you can say the sound doesn't change much and sometimes I get tired from this. his 'Vesti la Giubba' is somewhat uninspired, as Joern once said to me in the time that I was amazed by the vibrato in the aria..I still like it however. I think that when you mention 'Pavarotti' you should mention 'which' Pavarotti Do you mean the younger Pavarotti cerainly not producing falsetto like notes, or the older one? Big difference
Erm I don't have time to ramble on, have to go. Sorry
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| Piano Member (250+)Joined: 04:14, Tue 28 Jan 2003Posts: 370Location: Norway |
Count me in. Some years ago I used to find Corelli too vulgar for my taste. I also found his lisping irritating...
Now I find him irresistable. Of course his heroic roles are superb, but he is also a convincing Rodolfo in my book. Whether he is "the best"...well, he is certainly up there. My three favorites happens to be Björling, Melchior and Lauri-Volpi. Actually I have a list of some 15-20 tenors that I regard THE tenors of the 20th century. Corelli will certainly ALWAYS belong to this group. As for the final high B: I've been rambling on about Björling's 15 second "vincero" Live in Stockholm 1944 elsewhere on the forum. It is a rarity as it was found in the Swedish radio archives only a few years ago, and is only commercially available on "Björling sings Puccini" on the bluebell lable. I'll only be happy to e-mail a copy to you Cesim if you haven't already got it that is! Having said that, Corelli's high C or what have you is one of a kind!! Helge |
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| Fortissimo Member (1500+)Joined: 19:55, Mon 19 May 2003Posts: 1602 |
I have heard a few nessun dorma's sung by Pavarotti. Of course I know that Pavarotti can sing High B in full voice. Wen he sings nessun dorma he always sings the High B with a lot of falsetto. I haven't heard Pavarotti sing high B in full voice when singing Nessun Dorma. He knows that if you sing the high B in full voice, he will not be able to stretch the two notes so long.
If you have a file of the young pavarotti singing it in full voice, could you send it to me 
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| Tenor Watch HostJoined: 10:22, Sat 12 Oct 2002Posts: 113Location: Australia |
Helge, do nominate your 15-20 tenors of the XX century. Let us compare notes. Here below are my 17 tenors of the century:
The Italians Caruso, Lauri-Volpi, Filippeschi, Schipa, Fisichella, the French Thill, the Spanish Fleta, Kraus, the German Melchior, the Danish Roswaenge, the Dutch Windgassen, the Bohemian Slezak, the Slovenian Dermota, the Austrians Patzak and Tauber. The last two but not least, the Swedish Bjorling and Winbergh . My favorite is Lauri-Volpi. Come on, guests and members, nominate at least your 12. It will be interesting to read. Do not forget to mention your very favourite out of your fantastic bunch! Cheers
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| Pianissimo Member (100+)Joined: 17:56, Wed 30 Oct 2002Posts: 181Location: Boston, United States |
Boy this is tough.
Caruso Gigli, Lauri-Volpi, Corelli. Di Stefano. Borgioli Fleta, Islandi Thill, just listen to Ne Pouvant Reprimer from Heriodade Schmidt, Patzak, Dermota Corelli has such a bright powerful top: I love his Andrea Chenier. David |
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 Forum Admin Joined: 04:40, Tue 21 Jan 2003Posts: 599Location: Villa Gral Belgrano - Cba - AR
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Count me in, too.
One of my favourites... With Caruso, for me, one of the most thrilling Canios. Due to my short experience I can't say who are the greatest of the XXth century for me... but I could name who I do like now. 1. Jussi Björling 2. Giacomo Lauri-Volpi 3. Franco Corelli Enrico Caruso, Nicolai Gedda, Giuseppe Di Stefano, Miguel Fleta, Carlo Bergonzi, Beniamino Gigli. Others I have listened only a few recordings: Francesco Tamagno, John McCormack, Tito Schipa, Georges Thill, Lauritz Melchior, Richard Tauber, Fritz Wunderlich. Of the recently past years: Alfredo Kraus, Luciano Pavarotti, Roberto Alagna and Juan Diego Florez (Thank you John!  )
Regards. Diego
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| Pianissimo Member (100+)Joined: 16:10, Tue 13 May 2003Posts: 218Location: cluj-napoca, romania |
This is getting a challenge, so here is my list:
young Di Stefano, Bjoerling, Melchior, Corelli, Tucker, Del Monaco, Schmidt, romanians Garbis Zobian, Ion Buzea and Marius Vlad Budoiu, Lauri-Volpi, Rosvaenge, Bergonzi, Lemeshev. There should be many others left behind and the order is not necessarily relevant. The best tenor, hmmm, hard to say because each had its strong points and weak points. In my opinion the competition goes between Bjoerling, Lauri-Volpi, Corelli and Di Stefano. I can't really decide and I think it is not fair to "judge" these exceptional voices and put them in some sort of "top 10". This is an "MTV" fashion. These men dedicated their lives to opera. In my opinion criticising one or another is not a very good position. Think about how would you feel beeing on the stage, giving the best you have and then read the "critics". Sometimes I think critics are those people not beeing able to sing, so they evaluate the singers.
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| Pianissimo Member (100+)Joined: 15:45, Fri 14 Feb 2003Posts: 113Location: Bucharest, Romania |
When I first make the list, it contains about 35 names. Then I started to cut some of them, but I realise it was not fair to the others so I stopped.
Here is my list: Italians: I will start with Tamagno, de Lucia, Anselmi, Zenatello and Bonci, but they all had an important part of their singing period in the 19th century. So I have to start with Caruso, then it will come: Gigli, Pertile, Martinelli, Schipa, Lauri-Volpi. After war: Tagliavini, del Monaco, di Stefano, Corelli, Filippeschi, Bergonzi and Pavarotti. Spanish: Lazaro, Fleta, Vinay, Kraus, Domingo, Carreras French: Thill, Luccioni Nordics: Melchior, Svanholm, Roswaenge, Bjorling, Schiotz, Windgassen, Gedda. Germans: Slezak, Tauber, Dermota, Wunderlich English: O'Sullivan, Tucker, Vickers, Widdop, Lanza Russians: Sobinov, Kozlovski, Lemeshev. Last, and not least, my favourite romanians tenors: Badescu, Munteanu, Stirbei, Zobian, Buzea. Now, who are in my top 3 ? My heart is beating when I listen to those 3: Bjorling, Pertile, Schipa. So, it's purely emotional my choice, I had no other criteria, so don't be offensed if you don't find your favorite tenor in my 3 favorites... |
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| Pianissimo Member (100+)Joined: 15:45, Fri 14 Feb 2003Posts: 113Location: Bucharest, Romania |
I see now that I forgot two important names: Jacques Urlus and Leopold Simoneau. Sorry...
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| Forum ModeratorJoined: 17:22, Wed 16 Oct 2002Posts: 2697Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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My list:
Gigli, Caruso, Di Stefano, Corelli, Fleta and Schmidt. To lesser extent: Schipa, Fisichella, and Kiepura. |
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| Mezzo Forte Member (750+)Joined: 15:15, Thu 24 Oct 2002Posts: 876 |
Agree on Corelli.
Now, my list (in no specific order): Tamagno, de Lucia, Caruso, Anselmi, Gigli, Zenetello, Volpi, Merli, Pertile, Schipa, Corelli, Pavarotti, Bonci. Melchior, Urlus, Sembrich, Herold. Thill, De Reske, Escalais, Affre, Franz, Rayner, Davries. Crookes, Widdop, Nash, Evan Williams, Mc Cormack. Bjorling Ershov, Figner, Lemeshev, Koslowsky, Smirnov, Sobinov. All of them have produced some wonderful records which in my mind, make them great. As for my favourite, I can't really say. The true greats for me would include Tamagno, de Lucia, Caruso, Gigli, Melchior & Bjorling, though I am sure I will add more names in hindsight (e.g. Corelli is thrilling). Incidently, I am in the process of cataloguing my collection (sad I know). So far, listing the tenors that I have recordings of, the count is well over hundred different names, and I am still just over half way through. This is not to show off, but simply to show how much choice we really have. Most of the names are all pre-1960 as well. Interesting to note how few modern day tenors are on our lists. |
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| Fortissimo Member (1500+)Joined: 19:55, Mon 19 May 2003Posts: 1602 |
Helge thanx for asking. I would be delighted to receive Bjorling's nessun dorma.
My e-mail is: cesim.yalcin@wanadoo.nl Thanx in advance. |
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| Fortissimo Member (1500+)Joined: 19:55, Mon 19 May 2003Posts: 1602 |
My favourite tenors are:
1)Corelli 2)Di Stefano( This man should have been no1) 3)Lauri-Volpi 4)Caruso, Kraus 5)Pavarotti For me a good tenor must have a strong voice with a good vibrato. Bjoerling, in my opinion does not have a good vibrato, maybe it's too good. His vibrato sounds weird. I just heard Corelli singing with Merill and Tucci. On the last note you just hear Corelli singing, I think, a high C. His voice just excites me. I agree with Helge. The lisping bothers one at first. But you get used to it |
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| Piano Member (250+)Joined: 04:14, Tue 28 Jan 2003Posts: 370Location: Norway |
No particular order...
Björling, Melchior, Lauri-Volpi, Di Stefano, Roeswänge, Gedda, Corelli, Thill, Fisichella, Winbergh, Simoneau, Vickers, Kraus, Gigli, Caruso, Tamagno, Fleta My all time favorite is Jussi Björling...by a nose. Cesim: I'll be pleased to send you Björling's rare Nessun Dorma later today. Nice if you post your impressions on the board afterwords! Helge |
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